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Freeborn
Topic :   the natural or lie

wow, great revelation God just gave me....I was sitting thinking on Gog and the mysteries there.
God just showed me from this 'carnal' way of trying to interpret Scripture, 
where and how animal sacrifices came into being.

Adam/satan/serpent, took everything in Scripture to a natural, carnal interpretation; taking the words to their human, natural meanings.....
as in SHEEP....or GOAT...or WHEAT, or stubble...surely any beginner realizers that the SHEEP of God are NOT FOUR LEGGED ANIMALS....right?

or that CLOUDS does not mean the 'water vapor' up in the air? how many of you realize that the word CLOUD means a great crowd of people? do you ever study? or look up words..

Now, Adam heard God say, my sheep...hear my voice....he heard, Lamb of God....so he caused everyone to begin seeing the Word of God as NATURAL OR CARNAL..
the carnal or natural mind is not subject to the things of God...cannot be....so
no one
could ever get the truth....for Adam said, I am the son of God, so what I say is always right.....
and Eve believed him.
most folks ever since then has believed his lying mouth...
he said, kill those animals and offer their blood to God to get rid of your sins......but....

God said, I hate this....who required this of you? certainly I did not.

Adam said, women, keep quiet; be silent and obey men..meaning female humans and male humans.....

BUT...

God was never speaking of humans that way.....he said
in Christ there is neither.....male nor female...ye are all ONE.

now folks took that word ..ONE...and twisted the entire word of God...into lies and more lies and more lies.

all because they still listen to ADAM/SERPENT.

He said, serpent said....kill literal sheep..that is what God meant.....not for one minute.

Jo Smith ...feb 12, 2018wow, great revelation God just gave me....I was sitting thinking on Gog and the mysteries there.

God just showed me from this 'carnal' way of trying to interpret Scripture, 
where and how animal sacrifices came into being.

Adam/satan/serpent, took everything in Scripture to a natural, carnal interpretation; taking the words to their human, natural meanings.....
as in SHEEP....or GOAT...or WHEAT, or stubble...surely any beginner realizers that the SHEEP of God are NOT FOUR LEGGED ANIMALS....right?

or that CLOUDS does not mean the 'water vapor' up in the air? how many of you realize that the word CLOUD means a great crowd of people? do you ever study? or look up words..

Now, Adam heard God say, my sheep...hear my voice....he heard, Lamb of God....so he caused everyone to begin seeing the Word of God as NATURAL OR CARNAL..
the carnal or natural mind is not subject to the things of God...cannot be....so
no one
could ever get the truth....for Adam said, I am the son of God, so what I say is always right.....
and Eve believed him.
most folks ever since then has believed his lying mouth...
he said, kill those animals and offer their blood to God to get rid of your sins......but....

God said, I hate this....who required this of you? certainly I did not.

Adam said, women, keep quiet; be silent and obey men..meaning female humans and male humans.....

BUT...

God was never speaking of humans that way.....he said
in Christ there is neither.....male nor female...ye are all ONE.

now folks took that word ..ONE...and twisted the entire word of God...into lies and more lies and more lies.

all because they still listen to ADAM/SERPENT.

He said, serpent said....kill literal sheep..that is what God meant.....not for one minute.

Jo Smith ...feb 12, 2018



02/12/2018 8:56 PM


Freeborn
Re :   Hi Jo

Thank you, Jcan.  I am also sorry for your loss.  Sometimes we just do not know what another person is going through.  Only God can give us the overcoming comfort that we need in these trying times.
My sweet grandson is home now, but still got a long way to go to be well again. trouble is, this is his second time to be in a wreck and come to the point of death.  God surely is with him.  He is very hurt over losing his mother this way.  Life is hard.

I am now waiting to close on the house I am buying.  will be moving almost an hours drive away from any of my friends or family.  Hope that is not a mistake.

Love to you,
Jo


02/12/2018 10:32 AM


jcan071
Re :   Hi Jo

Jo, I'm so sorry that you are going through all this.Things happen so fast at times we wonder what the heck is going on. I lost a couple of sons a a few years back and it was difficult to get through the pain, so I know what your going through Jo, only the Lord can help us get through these tragedies. I know you trust the Lord for everything, so it will all work out in the end. God Bless you always , your friend jcan.


02/07/2018 10:01 AM


Freeborn
Re :   Hi Jo

Thank you, Jcan.  so good to hear from you.  No, things are bad for me right now,..
My youngest daughter was killed by a train, Jan 7.  Her son is still in hospital, in bad shape..  she will be buried this coming Sunday.  Her daughter held her out hoping Eric could get out and come...but not to be.

Young seven year old great grandson has just gotten out of hospital..has brain tumor.

A sister told me today that her son is coming home from hospital under hospice.  I am now in the process of buying a new home.
just sold the one I had for 24 years.

so much going on...but God is with us.
hope all is well with you.

Jo


02/01/2018 2:16 PM


jcan071
Topic :   Hi Jo

Hi Jo, haven't heared from you in awhile, I pray everything is okay.

Jcan


01/23/2018 3:35 PM


Freeborn
Topic :   running to and fro...by Larry

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 2:2And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
From these two witnesses we see that the going to and fro is of Satan. Here we see God asking Satan two times, where did you come from? Both times Satan had the same answer. So we see that this going to and fro is of Satan.
Satan wanted to be as God.Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. . ( yes he (Adam) wanted to as God. But notice it said gods with s at the end, which make it plural. This means a many member kingdom as God is a many-membered kingdom.) 2 Chronicles 16:9 For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars. ( having wars is showing that the true ministers of God are fighting this going to and fro of Satan. the only way to be made perfect is by the Holy Ghost and to be made strong. We must be careful what we see and hear. We must not hear the voice of Satan that runs to and fro. we must listen to the voice of God because his eyes are always looking. We must not be the 5 foolish virgins that had no oil in their lamp. We must have oil in our vessel as the 5 wise virgins. This vessel is our earthen vessel. We must not be lead away from the truth.

1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. ( we must look at this spiritual. he tried to twist everything around and make Able works to be evil and his be righteous. Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! ( people this is what is happening today in the churches. They are slaying you spiritually and they are calling evil good and good evil. Yes, they are slaying you as Cain slew Able. These pastors in these churches are telling you it is alright to worship the idols
of xmass, easter, halloween, etc. which is all of satan ( Adam)

I did a message on this one time but looked for it and could not find it
Genesis 4:9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; ( The Lord put a curse on Cain, the same as he put a curse on Adam the wicked one. What curse did he put on them? The same curse the church is under along with you that are attending these churches. Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.( the works of the law is the curse and that where the church is, along with you. All I can say is if you like being under the law that is the place for you. If you like paying tithes stay where you are. Women if you like not being able to talk or preach and remain silent don't go nowhere. If you like being chained and can not go to another place of worship please don't move from your seat. Because you are very comfortable where you are sitting where the seat of satan is. 
12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. ( thou tillest the ground meaning that you are laboring for these churches and while they are getting big $ and instead of them paying you, these pastors are paying themselves. You are nothing but a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth. Fugitive and vagabond meaning the same to wander be tossed to and fro. As I said earlier this to and fro is of satan and the world. It is not of God. Again being in the earth is the same as satan told God. just a reminder what satan told God; From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. ( That is what I am doing in this message I am slaying Cain and Adam.
Amos 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it. ( you can not find the LORD with the running to and fro. You must Isaiah 55:6 Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: ( the only way we can seek the LORD and call on him is to have a personal relationship with him and his word.

Daniel 12:4 says "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. ( Here in Daniel he said they are running to and fro seeking knowledge and knowledge is increased. 
¶ Hos 4:1 Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land ( there was no true doctrine discernment, understanding, wisdom in Israel of old which was law. God no longer requires law. Which he never did in the first place. God hated law but that is what the Old Israel wanted and which the church has gone back to. And you are allowing them to toss you to and fro also because it is what you want.There is no mercy under the law. The law said to stone them with stones, till they die. Burn them with fire. Stone this woman this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Your sins were not forgiven but rolled over from year to year 
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; ( see you are as a child that is being tossed to and fro. You are allowing these pastors and churches to teach anything and doctrine and you will agree with them. Some teach you must be baptized in the name of the father son and holy spirit. Some teach that baptism is not necessary, and speaking in tongues is not for us today. There are many more things they do. These pastors are deceiving you and is skilled in deception; they make you think they have knowledge of the word while getting their messages from headquarters of some organization. They have so much guile coming from their mouths. 
Here is what the meaning of guile is if you don't know. It is subtilty or deceit. And this is what you are drinking and eating from these so- called men of God. I will tell you one thing and you can take it to the bank. This message did not come from no headquarters of some organization. This message is from the living God.
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: ( be sober do not drink from the wine these pastors are making you drink because it is poison wine. Watch and take heed what you are drinking. Get you a KJV and compare what they are saying, in other words, be vigilant. These pastors are your adversary, enemy. That is right he is your enemy. The verse said he walketh about. Is this not the same as we said about satan in the opening scriptures? Sure it is. From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. He is destroying you with false doctrine.

Another thing ruling over someone is not of God. These men are false shepherds. They care nothing about the sheep. All they do is feed the sheep poison which is false doctrines. Again they are in this for the $. Ezekiel 34: 1 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? 3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. ... ( Ezekiel was preaching and telling them these things came from God and then ask the question, he said should not the shepherds feed the flocks? That is what a shepherd should do but they were not and still are not feeding the sheep. They need to feed the sheep, corn wheat, and barley which all is the word of God. A true shepherd will keep his eyes out for the wolf in sheep clothing or the roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour. There is that walketh about again. A true shepherd will be as David. He slew both the lion and the bear. A true shepherd will leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost until he finds it? These false shepherds feeds themselves. Got a little off track but I felt like it was from God

Now back to ruling over. These pastors rule over the sheep. Ruling over one another is not of God. Deuteronomy 7:14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle. ( see both male and female is in this and can bare a child of God. There is no ruling over each one. We are all one in Christ even as the body is one. Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ( we are no longer a slave. We had and still do have a bondman. The bondman has set us free. Want to know who the bondsman is? Galatians King James Version (KJV)
5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. ( Yes it was Christ Jesus. If you are Galatians 5King James Version (KJV)
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. ( have you been set free or are you still under the yoke of bondage? If not you are still under ruling over by the husband. Is it Christ Jesus or is it satan running to and fro? Men this includes you also. If you see man or woman you are carnal minded. All flesh is female to God. We do not rule over one another if we are in Christ.

Acts 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Newith one accord in one place.ither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
I have got to end this here. I have so much more but this is long. See people this is the way it should be as Acts states here in these last verses. We need to have all in common and not one trying to rule over each other. We all are of the body of Christ and we should be in with one accord in one place. The only one we need to reign over us is, Jesus Christ because he is sitting on the throne of God. He is our King and Messiah. Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

larry bray
1/21/2018



01/21/2018 10:06 AM


Freeborn
Topic :   fake holy ghost

Fake Holy Ghost;  fake holy spirit 


By:  Jo Smith…Dec 30, 2017


God was giving me this message last night.  The truth is not liked and this truth most certainly will not be liked…..but the truth must be told.  The Trumpet of God must sound..those who do not take warning will be destroyed, yet we watchmen will have delivered our own soul, by warning you.


Jesus Christ said, few there be that find the way to eternal life.  He said, wide is the gate that leads to hell and many go in thereat.  He said, narrow is the way that leads to life and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.


So now, think a minute:  do you think that the MANY who keep holidays,  who make merry and exchange gifts are the FEW THAT WILL FIND ETERNAL LIFE?  IF SO, then the saying is a lie.  Few there be that find it….many keep holidays;  in fact almost everyone does.  So that cannot be the FEW.  Think, how FEW of us stand against this evil? 


But what makes the many think they can still do the very things that God commands us not to do, and still find eternal life?  Simple;  they have a FAKE SPIRIT.  There are many churches that give their people a fake holy ghost.  Yes, they truly think that because they have rejoiced a bit;  laughed a  bit;  spoke in some kind of ‘tongues’ and done a bit of dancing about;  or sing in church or preach, that they have the Holy Ghost.


But then why does not their ‘holy ghost’ …or..holy spirit as the other churches call it…why does not that spirit do what Jesus said the Holy Ghost will do?


Jesus said, ‘when he is come He will LEAD you and GUIDE you into ALL TRUTH’.


Then why do all these many church goers not continually grow in knowledge of the Word of God?  Why do they think the Word of God is of very little importance?  The WORD OF GOD is God and is the very most important thing in the world….It is certainly the most important thing for the Christian life.  Prayer and the Word of God is the only means one has of contacting and knowing God.  When you think you must run to some theater-type church building to get with  God, or to hear from God, or feel God’s spirit, you have a fake spirit.  The true  Spirit of God is with us each and every minute.  We can and should stay in contact with God. 


When you still believe the very same doctrine that you believed years ago, it proves the Holy Ghost is NOT leading you or guiding you into ALL TRUTH.  No church has truth and so if you only listen to them and never study for yourself and grow as God speaks to you, interpreting the Word of God to you,  you will never find truth and therefore have a fake spirit, thinking it is the Holy Ghost or spirit.


Jesus said he that believes shall do the SAME WORKS that I do;  heal the sick;  speak in tongues; cast out devils, etc.  Yet most everyone who says they are believers and have the spirit of God, DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS…..so this proves you have a fake spirit.


God commanded us not to look at how the heathens worship their gods and try to do the same to him..He said do not do anything  as worship to me that I did not COMMAND YOU TO DO.  Deut 12.  God did NOT command us to do any holidays.  He commanded us not to bless the day of the birth of Jesus or anyone. 


He said all that they do is an abomination to me.  That means God hates those things.  He refuses them as worship and will cast you out of his kingdom.  God said, the things which are highly esteemed by man is an abomination to God.  Nothing is more highly esteemed than the holidays;  especially Xmess.  Yet you folks, claiming to have the Holy Ghost, JUST LOVE THIS MESS.  You would not part with it for anything.


You will not even read these messages, for you know they speak against your evil ways.  God will still judge you for your evil.  When you teach children that Dec 25 is the birthday of Jesus and that God wants us to do such as decorating trees, exchanging gifts, all kinds of mess, to celebrate that birthday, you are sinning big time and leading those children down the road to hell fire.  You have a fake spirit when you can do these things and just love this evil mess.  You know not the true God.  You have NOT the true Holy  Ghost or Holy Spirit.


You can deceive yourself all you wish to, but you will still be sent to hell, for you are in total disobedience to the Living God.  Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments.  He commanded us not to do such things…..so you could not love Jesus…You have the fake jesus.  Yes, Paul said they should bring up a false jesus.  they did just that and every church out there is worshiping this fake jesus;  loving the fake holy spirit/ghost.  Can you really think that the lies told of Xmess, easter, halloween, and all such evil things, really bless Jesus?  Please Jesus?  are done because of Jesus?  to please Jesus?  no one with the true Holy Ghost could believe those lies.  You think the lies of santa and his fake deers is done because of Jesus?  Then all you know is that fake jesus.  The true Jesus said, SPEAK TRUTH TO EVERYONE.  All LIARS will have their part in the lake of fire.  That is where your fake holidays are sending you and your children…hell fire. 


Just because you may have once had a little something with what you call God, does not mean that you are a true child of God today.  When you can love the evil things of this world, such as TV, movies….lying made-up books, holidays, you most certainly do NOT HAVE THE TRUE SPIRIT OF GOD.  You could not do those things if you did.


You can think I am wrong in this all you wish…you think cause you love some church or preacher or fake prophet, that you are a child of God….but that is not what proves you are a child of God.  Obeying God, loving the things that God said to do and hating the things that God condemns is what proves which spirit you have.  When you cannot give up your holidays, your other sins, you DO NOT HAVE THE HOLY GHOST.  You are not a child of God….you are a child of satan.


And this is why you hate for me to teach this truth.  You cannot stand to hear the truth.  You cannot stand to talk about these things and this proves you have a satanic spirit and call it the holy spirit.  You are totally deceived.

When you must cut someone off, that speaks to you about  God,  when you  must change the conversation because you cannot speak of the things of God and Scripture, it proves you have a FAKE SPIRIT and not the Spirit of God.


You refuse to be corrected.  You refuse to listen to those of us who speak truth to you.  You lead your children down that same road to destruction.  You have a FAKE SPIRIT AND IT IS NOT HOLY AT ALL.  It is evil spirit of satan. 





12/30/2017 7:46 PM


Freeborn
Re :   ~ A Family Affair ~

People do not understand and they mock everything I say trying to show people these holidays are so evil.  they mock me as Jesus said they would....but still we must continue to present the truth to this world.


12/17/2017 6:20 PM


Freeborn
Re :   our David

thank you, Jcan.  always so good to hear from you.  Hope all is going well with you.  I am now in the process of moving and it is a job..be so glad when this is finished.


12/12/2017 6:42 PM


isaiah12
Re :   ~ A Family Affair ~

 Concerning Family Affair. Well I went to Athens, Ga. this morning. I was talking to this lady and she asked me what did I have planned for xmass. This is the way the conversation went.
Woman...  What do you have planned for christmas.
Larry... Mam, I do not have anything planned for christmas. I do not believe in christmas.
Woman.... you mean you are not getting together with your family.
Larry... mam, no I am not.
Woman..... why?
Because it is a pagan holiday.
End of discussion.


11/30/2017 3:37 PM


Freeborn
Re :   Who is Abaddon?

here is some great spiritual stuff, I see happening right now,...in my life:

wanted to wait till the thing is cemented into place to show this...but even if it does not complete with my buying that house...the spiritual things will still be true; so here goes:

The first people who had my place under contract had the last name of 'SHORT'..but it fell through...they came up short..

next, the first person who had bid, stepped up and added three more thousand dollars to the bid and now has it under contract...His last name is: Pitman.

THIS IS why I have this on my mind now..the angel of the PIT....which is Abaddon, or Jesus Christ.

so now He is to take my place....but get this....I have looked and looked at places for me....finding nothing that worked...
My Agent talks the same kind of faith that God taught me...she said, when you find the place God wants you to have, it will fall right into place...don't be upset.

See, the other times I could not sell; but this time it was like silk...so I said, when God shows me the right place for me to buy, it will also fall in place like silk..she agreed....so Eric and I planned to go look at three places, Wednesday..He found this place with the tower on it online...so instead we went to see this....called the agent and she came down and showed it to us...Wanna, Rhonda, Rachel, Eric and I were all there...it went like silk..I wanted it immediately. Nothing else had suited me.

I said, yes....I had put my place on the market three other times in the past....did no good.....so I had decided to never try again...so bought up so much stuff,,,,filled my house...filled my yards....see, being FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST...oh I just saw something else, reading this: two fillings; Holy Ghost and then the Fire baptism...first filled the house; then filled the yard..

Then my back broke; then my neighbor stayed with me a few days...then she began coming into my yard and stealing from me every day..so I had enough....
hope some of you read this and see some spiritual stuff happening.. (just keep seeing more as I read this and edit it: He showed me that as she was stealing from me till I had enough and determined to get out of here;;;;; so the false ministers/churches, have stolen all of God's truth from the people....left them with nothing but idols....they will wake up and say, I have had enough...get back to that big TOWER.)

then I put the place on the market again..wanting to get out of here..bad road..hurts my back to ride it....

as soon as it hit the market, folks began bidding on it.. six of them.

the first fell ...then the first one picked it back up....so glorious...first a short..then a PITMAN..

see this is why I want you to read about the locusts and the angel of the pit.

now it gets better....I went to sleep two days ago; had a dream; was in a room all alone..it had a big wide door....the door began opening up and no one was there; just me....so it scared me and I screamed....then it was wide open and no one was there....so I began rebuking 'it' in the name of Jesus...thinking it might be a bad spirit....
but./ something told me...it is not a bad spirit and no need to rebuke it....
so I just saying JESUS, JESUS JESUS...so powerful and it woke me up.

So I said,,,it is God showing me he is giving me an OPEN DOOR...I had looked at this house which has on its land a big TOWER. I think it is an open door for a new ministry, as Larry and I are now into....the killing of the old Goliath... = fake church.

wow. God is a high TOWER....a place of SAFETY. I had been praying for God to lead me to a safe place.

I bid on this house. Today they told me that I was also buying the land on which the tower sits...in other words, the huge TOWER will be on my land, (if I get this place)....

A PITMAN takes my place....(the angel of the pit)...and God opens another door for me...and I buy a place WITH A HUGE TOWER ON IT.

If God is not in this, I fail to know anything.

by: 
Jo Smith Nov 27, 2017...p.s. I did not know that the tower went with this property till today...shew.....so much spiritual stuff.



11/27/2017 8:10 PM


Freeborn
Re :   Goliath Must Fall

Thank you, Larry, for this great and powerful message.  love it. 


11/27/2017 6:40 PM


isaiah12
Topic :   Goliath Must Fall

Goliath Must Fall

Most everyone thinks that 1 Samuel 17 is just a story about David and Goliath. No, it is not just a story about David and Goliath. If you have no spiritual understanding, yes it is just a story. But the ones with the spiritual understanding know that 1 Samuel 17 is a war going on in the spiritual. David is showing Jesus or flesh or Jesus the Christ which is spiritual. I hope you can see that there is a fleshly side of Jesus and a spiritual side which is Jesus Christ. Goliath( Adam) is showing satan or Lucifer. The reason I said Lucifer is because he and Goliath and Adam all fell. All 3 fell. But the church organization revied Lucifer, Goliath, and satan. They even have a seat for the 3 which is one. Satan's kingdom is just like the kingdom of God. His body is one as Jesus Christ body is one. One body and many members. That is the reason we must make Goliath and his kingdom fall. Just as Jesus the Christ made Goliath, Adam, Lucifer fall. We need to do the same. These Goliaths ( churches. pastors etc. must fall. These Goliaths have the authority that their daddy (Adam) has. Goliath is in charge of or controlling other people.
Is this not what these pastors, preachers etc. do? Sure it is.

To prove that the seat of satan is in these church organizations.
Revelation 2:13 (KJV)
13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. ( yes, he sits in his throne seat in the churches. He sits up there lifting himself up as God. He is the high priest. I suppose you know who he is. He is the church pastor or elder bishop of whatever they call themselves. He is the one you look to and he tells you it is alright to worship your idols. idols worship is not of God. It is of Adam (satan) and under his control.
The word says Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; ( Satan) sits up there as most High and as if he is on the throne of God the Most High.
These temples ( churches) made with hands are not of God. God is not in these temples ( churches).
God dwells in his people and shall be in you. His Spirit that dwelleth in you. 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

As said earlier this about David and Goliath is spiritual warfare and we must defeat Goliath. All of this began in the book of Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
There was a fleshly side and a spiritual side in Eve. Cain was the fleshly side, the seed of Adam
( satan) an Able was the spiritual seed which was of Eve. The strong's meaning of Cain is possession and I looked up what possession meant; a. The state of being dominated or controlled. This is what is happening in these church organizations. These so-called men of God are as Goliath who has the desire to own or dominate the people. I know most of you will say my pastor does not. But you are so wrong. You will not hear from the true ministers of God but you are hearing only what they tell you and you like it. Yes, you like your evil idol holidays and every other thing concerned with it. The people perish from a lack of knowledge

There were 2 nations in Eve..... Genesis 25:23 And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger. (My sister in Christ ( Jo Smith) wrote a message on two nations in one a few years back and it is a great message. I found the link to it, here. If you would like to read and I doubt if anyone reads it.
http://forum3.aimoo.com/Buildonthetruefoundation/Church-Israel/Two-Nations-in-One-1-707752.html

1 Samuel 17:1 Now the Philistines gathered together their armies to battle, and were gathered together at Shochoh, which belongeth to Judah, and pitched between Shochoh and Azekah, in Ephesdammim.. 2 And Saul and the men of Israel were gathered together, and pitched by the valley of Elah, and set the battle in array against the Philistines. . 3 The Philistines occupied one hill and the Israelites another, with the valley between them. ( what is a valley? A low area of land between hills or mountain often having a river running along the bottom. What does this show us? It is a shadow or type of the Holy Ghost. John 7:38King James Version (KJV) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. Psalm 1:1... Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. Revelation 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. (This water of life comes from the throne of the living God. Not some man-made throne that lifts himself up above the people sitting in the seat of satan as a god. Ezekiel 28King James Version (KJV) 28: The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: ( what does this sea represent? it is water and the water in scripture represents;
Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (So from this is there are many people sitting under the leadership of satan and the church is the whore. But there are also people sitting under the leadership of Jesus and the apostles which is from the true throne of God and drinking from the pure river of water of life, clear as crystal. This water is from God and the Lamb. Interesting that he should mention God and Lamb. Showing two different ones.

2 And Saul and the men of Israel were gathered together, and pitched by the valley of Elah, and set the battle in array against the Philistines. ( what is the meaning of array. From the Webster dictionary..... to dress or decorate especially in splendid or impressive attire : adorn. These Israelite were dressed the same as the Philistine Goliath was arrayed in.
Your Goliath ( pastors, preachers etc.) and church are dressed the same as Goliath. More on this below.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. ( splendor, brightness, shining meaning the same thing.) 7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
I am going to have to leave off a few vs. because this is longer than I thought it would be. But no one will even get this far in the message. Only a few. But I am seeing some new things myself.

1 Sam 17:8 And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me. ( the Philistine was calling for a man and there was not a man willing to go to battle this great giant. Ezekiel 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. ( there was none among Israel that would fight this great giant.
he even called again for the Israelites to send out a man: 10 And the Philistine said, I defy the armies of Israel this day; give me a man, that we may fight together. 11 When Saul and all Israel heard those words of the Philistine, they were dismayed, and greatly afraid. ( they were afraid and dismayed because they did not have a man that would fight him.

20 And David rose up early in the morning, and left the sheep with a keeper, and took, and went, as Jesse had commanded him; and he came to the trench, as the host was going forth to the fight, and shouted for the battle.
21 For Israel and the Philistines had put the battle in array, army against army.
22 And David left his carriage in the hand of the keeper of the carriage, and ran into the army, and came and saluted his brethren.
23 And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them. ( he spake the same thing as before. Is there not a man? )
25 And the men of Israel said, Have ye seen this man that is come up? surely to defy Israel is he come up: and it shall be, that the man who killeth him, the king will enrich him with great riches, and will give him his daughter, and make his father's house free in Israel.
26 And David spake to the men that stood by him, saying, What shall be done to the man that killeth this Philistine, and taketh away the reproach from Israel? for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?
27 And the people answered him after this manner, saying, So shall it be done to the man that killeth him.
31 And when the words were heard which David spake, they rehearsed them before Saul: and he sent for him.
32 And David said to Saul, Let no man's heart fail because of him; thy servant will go and fight with this Philistine. ( praise God there was a man found that would fight this giant. there is still a few men and women that can still be found fighting this Goliath. These giants of these churches must fall. David is Jesus. Yes, he is symbolic of Jesus the Christ. Yes, David (Jesus) fought the Giant Goliath at Calvary and he won. The same as the true ministers of God are going to win.

Rev 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; ( law of commandments contained in ordinances was the Goliath that Jesus killed at Calvary. But as usual the church revied this Goliath and we are still fighting against a giant.

38 And Saul armed David with his armour, and he put an helmet of brass upon his head; also he armed him with a coat of mail.
39 And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him. ( as I said earlier These Israelite were dressed the same as the Philistine Goliath was arrayed in. This was not the armor for David and he took off this armor. David or Jesus knew what the armor they needed; Ephesians 6:10-18
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. ... ( they knew this was spiritual warfare and it was not only flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. David knew this but the other Israelites did not see it. They had no spiritual eyesight as most of you cannot see spiritual things.

40 And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook, and put them in a shepherd's bag which he had, even in a scrip; and his sling was in his hand: and he drew near to the Philistine. ( what does stone mean in scripture? lets see. 1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. ( scripture says the people are stones that are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
But what is David ( Jesus) showing? Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;( now that we see Jesus Christ ( David) was the chief cornerstone, what are the five stones showing? Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; ( there are your 5 stones. The true ministry of God in the brook. These are New Testament ministers.

41 And the Philistine came on and drew near unto David; and the man that bare the shield went before him.
42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.
43 And the Philistine said unto David, Am I a dog, that thou comest to me with staves? And the Philistine cursed David by his gods.
44 And the Philistine said to David, Come to me, and I will give thy flesh unto the fowls of the air, and to the beasts of the field.
45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.
46 This day will the Lord deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.
47 And all this assembly shall know that the Lord saveth not with sword and spear: for the battle is the Lord's, and he will give you into our hands.
(David, Just like the lion and the bear he slew, Goliath shall come down too.For the battles, are not our's but the Lord's.)

48 And it came to pass, when the Philistine arose, and came, and drew nigh to meet David, that David hastened, and ran toward the army to meet the Philistine.
49 And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth.
50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.
51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled.
52 And the men of Israel and of Judah arose, and shouted, and pursued the Philistines, until thou come to the valley, and to the gates of Ekron. And the wounded of the Philistines fell down by the way to Shaaraim, even unto Gath, and unto Ekron.
53 And the children of Israel returned from chasing after the Philistines, and they spoiled their tents.

I will close for now. I would loved to have commented on the list of the last scriptures. I also needed to say more about Lucifer. But if the Lord sees fit maybe I will.
We must put on the whole armour of God and defeat this Goliath. As I said earlier this Goliath must fall and never let these church organizations revive him. People, we can no longer be as sheep led to the slaughter. We must arm ourselves. We cannot defeat Goliath with his own array. We must do as David ( Jesus Christ ) and take off the armor of Goliath. We are more than conquerors, we are warriors fit for the battle. We were trained for this battle. As same as David was trained. He was a shepherd and he took care of his sheep. We must be prepared to kill Goliath. We will take care of our sheep. We know that this is a spiritual battle. We have put on the whole armor of God. As is the title of this message, Goliath you Are Going To Fall.
Job 40:10King James Version (KJV)
10 Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty

Larry Bray
11/25/2017
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11/27/2017 10:02 AM


Freeborn
Re :   The Cleansing

if you observe those days, times and years,,the work of getting you to 'accept' Christ has been IN VAIN...MEANS YOU ARE LOST. better listen to some truth.


11/18/2017 4:43 PM


Freeborn
Re :   The Cleansing

here is how you received the Grace of God IN VAIN;...this almost everyone...proves you CANNOT observe these ungodly 'days' and holidays as think you can, and still be in Grace: .. from the message:...So, they could have received the Grace of God; but it was in vain. How could this be? Gal. 4:10--Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11--I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in VAIN.
3:12--The law is NOT OF FAITH; but, the man that doeth them shall live in them.
v26--For ye are ALL the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
5:4--Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are FALLEN FROM GRACE.


11/18/2017 4:42 PM


Freeborn
Re :   The Cleansing

this grace does NOT GIVE YOU LICENSE TO SIN...it does not permit your ungodly holidays for this is DEVIL WORSHIP...so do not think that because you are 'not under law'...you can just sin.....God does NOT IMPART GRACE TO SINNERS....better get to some truth...your fake church....and they are all fake...is not going to get you to this truth....for they do not have it or want it.


11/18/2017 4:41 PM


Freeborn
Re :   The Cleansing

now don't go saying if this be true, then we can sin all we want and be saved...that is the worst of satan's lies to humanity...Scripture says, be ye holy as the Father is holy. He that is born of God does not commit sin...he that sinneth is of the devil...better get the truth....be filled with Holy Ghost and live a Godly life..if you want eternal life..holding the daughters of God under the BONDAGE OF LAW IS NOT HOLY.


11/18/2017 4:39 PM


Freeborn
Re :   The Cleansing

as I was continuing to read this great and powerful message. given to me by God...I realized that our struggle, after we claim to be 'saved'...our struggle is trying to get out from under the bondage of LAW....to the real freedom of Grace...so we CAN BE SAVED....we will not be saved IF WE CONTINUE UNDER LAW...after we find Jesus....so now...for many, many years, my soul was tortured because men had taught me that women cannot teach or preach or just about anything.....it seemed that God loved men but not women...I could not figure out why....I KNEW that god was at work in my life...I KNEW He gave me truth and pushed me to teach it....yet as I thought God forbids me that...I was torn into. I just could not figure this thing out...it looked like the Word was saying women cannot...but yet I knew God was telling me to do it....after many years of this torment...God finally opened this up to me....you are not under law.....that is law.....see, I was struggling all those years to get out from under that LAW TEACHING AND INTO GRACE.....folks...you are all going to have to do the same thing...get out of that law teaching if you wish to receive eternal life....it is not given to those who hold to the BONDAGE OF LAW.


11/18/2017 4:39 PM


Freeborn
Re :   The Cleansing

as I was just now reading this message, the Lord opened this up to me: those who say 'women' cannot...men can...are under LAW and are therefore LOST IN SIN....no matter how much you claim...you are back under law....read 1cor where it speaks of this...you will see that it is BY LAW...this is how God showed me that this teaching is totally wrong and contrary to salvation...if you think a man should rule over a woman....you are under LAW AND THEREFORE LOST IN SIN as you are rejecting the Grace Jesus gave us,,,,in which there is NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE....IF YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT COME OUT FROM UNDER THIS LAW OF MAN CAN AND WOMAN CAN'T, YOU WILL BE LOST....NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE.......you do not believe the grace of Jesus...you believe LAW.


11/18/2017 4:38 PM


Freeborn
Re :   History of the Serpent

thank you, Rebecca....and thanks for visiting and helping out here...hope you can do so much more.  we need to keep this site active.


11/17/2017 6:23 PM

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