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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 12/26/2007 9:24 PM

~~ Genesis Day Two and Four ~~

Genesis one begins with the birth of Jesus Christ and extends down until the end, when Jesus is set up as King over this whole world. It is not about back at the beginning with the creation of Adam. It is about Jesus and His Church or Kingdom. This is why men have not been able to find the truth of all this. They are trying to take all of this back to the creation from the dust of the ground. It is not about that. Chapter two is about that and there is absolutely no time limit placed on that creation. God declared the END from the Beginning, so this chapter one is actually the end. Chapter two is the beginning with the creation of Adam, from the dust of the ground.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Now, compare that with Gen. one: Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

“In the beginning”, in both scriptures, see? Jesus said, I am the beginning. So this clearly speaks here of Jesus and his earthly life. The Word of God was in Jesus creating heaven and earth. His ‘earth’, or human body, was without form and void, meaning that eternal life was not in that human flesh. It was completely MORTAL, hence, without form and void. It hung on that cross completely LIFELESS, THUS WITHOUT LIFE, OR WITHOUT FORM AND VOID.

All things were made by this Word. That Word is not the man, Christ Jesus. It was the spirit of God dwelling inside Jesus. By this word all things were made. This word was the LIFE which was inside Jesus, not human life, but the heaven, or immortal life. Now, Jesus was not this life. Jesus is a human being exactly like we are. But inside this human man, dwelt the Life of God. It was not the same as the spirit of Jesus. To say that Jesus had no spirit, or human life of his own, is to call God and his Word a lie. It is misinterpreting all of God’s word.

This earthly or mortal life was the darkness. Death is called darkness in Scripture. So we see here, life and death riding together. Without the Spirit and Word of God, we are nothing but dust, or darkness. God gives to each of us LIGHT, or heaven, when he gives us the Holy Ghost. He did the same thing for Jesus. He said, let there be light. So this light moved into Jesus and gave him light, or life. This life is different from his earthly, human life. This God-life gave to Jesus light, or truth. It did not stop here. It brought Jesus out of the grave and gave eternal life, or immortality, to Jesus. Thus the darkness was totally done away with. All of this took place on Day One. In the resurrection, the light, or life, and the darkness, or death, were completely separated forever.

These seven days in Genesis one is not of man’s time. It is not seven 24 hour periods of man’s timing. It is not about any certain AMOUNT of TIME. It is special times, which God designates as a DAY, such as the DAY of Salvation, or the DAY of judgment. There is a DAY wherein God will judge this world. There is a DAY of Wrath. It has nothing to do with any amount of time. There is an evening and morning, because all of this is still on-going, and the mortal is still growing with the immortal. Life and death still exist here together. Light and darkness, or carnality and spirituality, still exist here together. But it is being separated all the time, and will be finished when Jesus takes the kingdom away from Satan and cast him into the lake of fire, to deceive the world no more. Then all death will be totally separated from Life. The two will no longer grow together. This is why we must crucify, or deny our flesh (darkness), and walk in the spirit, or (light). We must ‘divide’ that ‘carnal’, or dark mind, from the ‘spiritual’ mind, or the light. We do this by renewing our mind, through the understanding of the Word of God, and obeying Him.

For one thing, I just was reading in Gen. One, and I noticed something I had overlooked before. As I read it, I could see that both witnesses are in these two days.

But, something I did not see until now is very significant in understanding these days in Genesis One. This is why I have not attempted to teach on this up till now. There is still too much I need before teaching it. I do not just grab up some man's carnal thoughts and teach it as others do, just trying to make themselves appear to know something which they really know nothing about. I want the pure truth, and it provable before I teach it.

But here is something solid: Notice in verse six, the firmament there was in the midst of the WATERS, not in heaven. Its purpose was to divide the WATERS from the WATERS. God used this FIRMAMENT, WHICH HE CALLED HEAVEN, (the spiritual people, who sit in heavenly places)...to divide WATERS from WATERS. So, on day two, we are dividing waters, or people, from waters. This firmament, or heaven, was inside Jesus, then later, inside his disciples.

Re 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

So, there is solid proof that the waters are the peoples of the entire world! These peoples are divided into two groups; God’s people and Satan’s people, or light and darkness!

Here is a Webster’s meaning for divide: 3 a: to cause to be separate, distinct, or apart from one another divided by stone walls> b: to separate into opposing sides or parties

Here is the meaning for separate: 1: to become divided or detached 2 a: to sever an association 3: to go in different directions 4: to become isolated from a mixture

synonyms separate, part, divide, sever, sunder, divorce mean to become or cause to become disunited or disjointed. separate may imply any of several causes such as dispersion, removal of one from others, or presence of an intervening thing :divide implies separating into pieces or sections by cutting or breaking

Here is proof that God divided light from darkness, as pertaining to how one lived: Isa 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Here is proof that the Light, Jesus, His Word, does this dividing or separating: Mt 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Mt 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: Mt 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: Mt 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

In this Scripture, God is dividing the light from the darkness and setting the wicked into outer DARKNESS. (Always remember, Scripture must interpret Scripture, not some man’s ideas.)

Here is proof that the Apostles were that firmament which was dividing the waters: Ac 19:9 But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.

See that Paul here divided or separated the disciples from those who spoke evil of that way. This is solid proof of the interpretation which God has revealed to me about this Day Two firmament dividing the waters from the waters.

Here is proof that God divided the light and darkness and the waters from the waters, and it has nothing to do with what people think of as the original creation: Isa 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them. Isa 34:17 And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein.

Here is proof that God put his words into the mouth of Jesus and used this to divide His people from Satan’s people: Isa 51:14 The captive exile hasteneth that he may be loosed, and that he should not die in the pit, nor that his bread should fail. Isa 51:15 But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name. Isa 51:16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.

These things have been going on since Jesus died and set up his church. ‘Plant the heavens’ speaks of building his Church or Kingdom. See that God said he divided the SEA. That is the waters or peoples of the world. So this all fits together perfectly and proves this interpretation. When you bring in Scripture to expound Scripture, then you can see the pure truth.

Here is more solid proof that this is all speaking about Jesus, his death, and his resurrection and how he then had the power to DIVIDE the waters from the waters and the light from the darkness! Glory!

Satan was the strong man, but a stronger than he came upon him and DIVIDED his goods: Lu 11:21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: Lu 11:22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

And one last Scripture proving that it was since the time of Jesus that the waters were divided from the waters, and that it was Christ and his anointed who did this: Lu 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. Lu 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

This firmament is the true Church of God...the true teachings of God. This truth and this true people is what divides the peoples of this earth from the peoples of God. The truth we teach, beginning with those on the Day of Pentecost, and on down until the end, is what divides Satan's peoples from God's peoples, Waters from waters, Peoples of the world.

Jesus said he caused DIVISION. He said think not that I am come to bring peace, but a sword. This sword, the Word of God, divides those in households. Mothers divided against their children. Fathers against their sons. In-laws against in-laws. Why? Because two cannot walk together unless they are agreed.

Truth separates those who believe Satan's lies. So we divide people or waters below the firmament, from those above the firmament. Love is a divider, because those who have true love divide those who do not have love. It separates the people of God from the people of Satan. Those of Satan have no love. They are selfish, hateful, desire no truth, worship idols, will not be instructed in the ways of righteousness. So this causes the division, or the separation.

So all down through time, until the end, these people, who make up this firmament, or the spiritual group of people, who are the heavenly group, are busy diving the waters, or peoples, from the other waters, or peoples. This will continue, as a ‘day two’ work, until it is finished at the end of the world, when the wheat and tares, or the good fish and bad fish, will no longer be there together. Separating the wheat from the tares and the good fish from the bad fish, or the corrupt trees, from the good trees, all means the very same thing! It means separating the waters from the waters and at last, separates in finality, the light from the darkness, or life from death.

After this separating or dividing work is finished, Heaven or God’s people, will have no darkness or death any more at all. Satan’s kingdom will be in total darkness then, with absolutely no light in it. That is the finishing up of all this dividing of the light from the darkness, and the waters from the waters. But until the end, this work continues and is still going on!

Day four is dividing the day from the night. On Day four, God said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night. So Jesus set those lights in the firmament, when he commissioned his disciples as the light of the world, to give light upon the earth. They were and are a City set on a hill which gives out the light, or the true Word of God. They are the lights in this firmament. Jesus is still setting more lights in this firmament. I am one of them. I know that God is giving me his Light to give to the world today, to separate the light from the darkness, and to still be dividing the waters from the waters. Remember, that only a few end up in the ‘waters above’ group. Only a few find the straight and narrow way which leads to life, which is the LIGHT OR THE DAY. In Him is no darkness at all. In him is life and no death. When this work is finished, there will be no night there in his kingdom or no death.

God made two great lights in this day. The greater light ruled the day. This is the truth of GRACE. This day began when Grace was given to this world. But still, even in this day of Grace, there is the Law, still ruling over the ‘night’ people. This is why there is an evening and a morning. Law and Grace are still together in this ‘day’.

The Day is the people of truth or of the kingdom of Christ. The lesser light is the moon, or the law. It rules the night, which is death. Life and death are still together here. Those who feel they must live by the Old Law, are in this darkness of night, or death. That law rules over them. Those of us who find Grace, are filled with the Holy Ghost and are led of the Spirit of God. That truth of the law of LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS RULES OVER US. We are free from that old bondage of the keeping of law or being killed. We obey God’s laws by love, which is shed abroad in our hearts with the Light of the Day, the Holy Ghost. See then that these lights divide the light from the darkness. This is very good. God will finally complete this ‘days’ work and all the sinners will be removed from this earth, and there will be complete PEACE for the entire earth.

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If you are looking for a string of ‘days’ in a row, as in our earthly days, one comes and finishes before another one sets in and that one is no more forever, you will never find the truth of Genesis one that way. It is not that way! These days overlap with each other, as it is not man’s time. It is certain ‘seasons’ of God. One is not stopped just because another one is also in ‘motion’. The lights of Christ, or his true ministers, did not just be here one day and then gone. No. They are still here, dividing the light from the darkness, and the waters from the waters. It will continue until the end when Satan is destroyed forever. Then death will be no more. Life or light will be all that is left. Then the darkness will finally be totally separated from the LIGHT. So, we have not reached day seven yet!

What a glorious DAY that will be. No night there. God and the Lamb are the Light in the Holy City of God.

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Verse one is the crucifixion of Jesus. I know everyone says this is a seven year tribulation, down at our time or the end of time. But that is man’s carnal thoughts. It does not fit any Scripture. No such thing is taught in Scripture. Man made this up, to cover up the fact that they did not know the truth and to fit their false doctrines.

At the time of his crucifixion, is when our deliverance was done. It was also the greatest time of trouble ever to be. That is when we were delivered. Now verse two is not to be taken as if it took place exactly when verse one took place. This is how most people miss the truth of the Word. They do not know how to divide Scripture. They just read it as if it is all one big story, all taking place in direct sequence. God does not speak that way.

Surely you all know that there is a long period of time between that first resurrection and the second? Notice that BOTH resurrections are spoken of in verse two, and in the same sentence, as if they took place right there together. But we know from Revelation, that this is not the case. So if that much time passes between those two resurrections, spoken of in one sentence, surely you know that much time could have passed between verse one and verse two?

But notice verse three. This reveals to us what the firmament and the stars of the firmament is. What? Who? They that be wise and turn many to righteousness. This is the true ministers of the New Testament. It speaks definitely about the Apostles. They are this firmament and they are these stars. Those twelve stars on the woman’s head are these apostles, not those twelve tribes of Israel.

Old Israel is NOT the way into this new heaven and new earth. Those Apostles, their doctrine, is. What did their teaching do? It separated those in darkness, or law, from those who came into Grace, or light. It separated those under the firmament from those above the firmament. It separated Satan’s waters, or peoples, from God’s peoples or waters.

It is still doing that job. It is still separating God’s people from Satan’s people. It is not complete yet. So the second day is not complete yet. It is still in progress. Where is this firmament?… in the midst of the waters, or peoples of this world? Believe it or not, I know that what I am teaching now, is part of this firmament which is dividing the waters from the waters. I know that I am teaching the very same thing which the Apostles taught. I know that it is in the same power to separate waters from waters, light from darkness. God called this firmament Heaven. Paul said we sit together in heavenly places. We sit in Heaven. The whore sits on the waters, the beast, the seven mountains. Theirs is the darkness or night. Ours is the Day or the light. Jesus told his disciples, You are the LIGHT of the world. You are a City set on a hill to give light to all who come in. We are the lights in this firmament. We are the stars in this firmament. Who? The true Christians who minister this truth. On Day four, God speaks again of this firmament.

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Let these lights in the firmament be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. Here is a bit of prophecy about these signs and wonders: Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Joe 2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mr 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mr 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen

Ac 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Ac 2:19 And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

Ac 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Ac 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Ac 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Ac 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Ac 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

Ac 5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch

Ac 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.

Ac 14:3 Long time therefore abode they speaking boldly in the Lord, which gave testimony unto the word of his grace, and granted SIGNS and wonders to be done by their hands.

Ro 15:19 Through mighty SIGNS and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

2co 12:12 Truly the SIGNS of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in SIGNS, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

2th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and SIGNS and lying wonders,

Heb 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with SIGNS and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

Now all of the above Scripture is MORE than enough to show anyone that this early Church of people who were endued with power from on high, were showing those signs and wonders which was spoken of in Gen. 1: 14. So the Holy Ghost filled Church is this firmament. They are the stars giving out this light to the world. It is truly spiritual and not carnal. This Firmament was spoken of in both Day Two and Day Four. Do you suppose that God did not finish it on day two? …and had to work some more on it in day four?

Let them give light upon the earth. Jesus said ye are the light of the world. Lu 8:16 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light.

See, we light that candle when we get revelation, or truth, which gives light to others. Mt 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. Mt 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

See, the preaching of Jesus was this great light the people who were sitting in the darkness, or the shadow of death, saw. They saw this great light of truth and came into life, out of death.

Mt 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. Mt 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! Mt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

These verses show that the light here is speaking about the truth one has. The ‘eye’ is the understanding being enlightened. If the whole body is full of light, or truth, then no darkness is in it. So this proves that the ‘darkness’ it speaks of is a lack of truth, and not the atmospheric darkness of a literal earthly night.

Lu 1:76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways; Lu 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins, Lu 1:78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, Lu 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

Again, the Word proves that the light and darkness, the shadow of death, are all spiritual and not natural. It has to do with salvation, not a 24 hour period of time!

Lu 11:34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness. Lu 11:35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness. Lu 11:36 If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light

The above proves that the light and darkness is inside a person, not out in the atmosphere. Again it proves that this light is likened to lighting a candle. So it has to be the getting of truth. No natural candle could be put inside a person to give them light! Here is another solid proof that this darkness is the evil of Satan, and not natural night-time: Lu 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

See, Jesus said this is their HOUR, and the power of darkness. See, the natural night-time has no power to kill the Son of God.

Here is more proof that the light and darkness are spiritual and not natural: John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

See, the above proves that the light is truth and not natural sun-light. Just because a person is evil would not make them hate natural sun-light or love darkness. It has to be speaking of truth and error, or lies. Men who are evil, love the lies of Satan. They hate the truth of God’s word. Jesus said this is their condemnation, because He came and brought us the light, or truth. So now, God holds everyone accountable to receive the truth and be converted.

John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Surely you must know that we who follow Jesus can still go out and walk in the natural darkness of night? It has nothing to do with serving God.

John 12:35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. Joh 12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

So if the light were the natural light of the sun, why did Jesus say yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light? The natural light of the sun does not go away. Now this is enough Scripture proof to prove to the very hardest and dumbest of folks, that the light and darkness in Genesis one is NOT speaking about atmospheric light and darkness, but rather the truth which Jesus gave us. If one rejects his truth, they will remain forever in the darkness, which is destruction from God.

Ps 27:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

This solidly links light with salvation and the LORD. It is not the natural sun. So, all of the above Scriptures together, prove without a doubt that it is Jesus and his true ministers, teaching truth, which is this divider of waters from waters and light from darkness, or life from death, day from night. We who teach the truth of God’s word are right now still dividing those who can receive it from those who refuse the truth. They will end up in total darkness eternally, because they refuse the light of truth as it is given to them. Walk as you have light, lest darkness come upon you!

By: Jo Smith ** Dec. 21, 2007

 
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RE:~~ Genesis Day Two and Four ~~
(Date Posted:12/14/2008 9:41 PM)

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 Sent: 12/26/2007 9:27 PM
OK,  this is the finished product.  You may print it out now and happy studying!
 
If I teach any more on this subject, It will be a complete new Message.  So this one is now finished.  I will remove the partial one I had on.
 
Jo

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This one is the full message altogether.  So I will put it back on the top for those of you who wish to print this one out.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 Sent: 12/31/2007 4:25 PM
I would really love to hear some discussion on this wonderful message.  Have any of you read this yet?  I cannot imagine having had this kind of teaching available to me, years ago, and just ignoring it!  I would have shouted for joy if someone had taught me this back then.
 
But I am really glad that It waited and God was the one who taught me.  I am so thankful that God is so kind and merciful to me and teaches me his great truth and uncovers the darkeness like this.
 
Notice that the first thing to be divided were the waters from the waters.  this has to continue until the very end of time.  As each generation comes along, there will always be God's people and Satan's people.  They will always have to be divided by the truth being taught to them.
 
Next, light has to be divided from darkness.  this has to occur in each and every person's life.  As we come more and more into truth, it destroys the 'darkness' or error which was in us.
As Satan's people refuse the truth, the darkenss blots out all light and they go into total darkness, or death.
 
then day has to be divided from night.  As this occurs, the true people of God come fully into the statue of the fullness of the Man, Christ Jesus and become part of the Day kingdom.
 
As Satan's people refuse to walk in the light of God as it is revealed, they become the people of the Night, or death and error. 
 
All of this DIVIDING is still  going on and will continue to work until God sets a stop to this way of life on earth.  Then all of God's people will be together in the Kingdom of LIGHT, or Christ.  there will be none there who love their idols and hold to their sins and men's false teachings.
 
All of Satan's people will be together in hell fire, where there is no light at all, no life.  They will be cut off from God forever and never have a change again to find Light or life.
 
They will have cut themselves off from the Tree of Life.
 
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RE:~~ Genesis Day Two and Four ~~
(Date Posted:12/14/2008 9:42 PM)

Uhoh,  It cut part of part two off;  So here it is again;  all of it:

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 Sent: 12/26/2007 9:25 PM

[Part 2]

If you are looking for a string of ‘days’ in a row, as in our earthly days, one comes and finishes before another one sets in and that one is no more forever, you will never find the truth of Genesis one that way. It is not that way! These days overlap with each other, as it is not man’s time. It is certain ‘seasons’ of God. One is not stopped just because another one is also in ‘motion’. The lights of Christ, or his true ministers, did not just be here one day and then gone. No. They are still here, dividing the light from the darkness, and the waters from the waters. It will continue until the end when Satan is destroyed forever. Then death will be no more. Life or light will be all that is left. Then the darkness will finally be totally separated from the LIGHT. So, we have not reached day seven yet!

What a glorious DAY that will be. No night there. God and the Lamb are the Light in the Holy City of God.

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Verse one is the crucifixion of Jesus. I know everyone says this is a seven year tribulation, down at our time or the end of time. But that is man’s carnal thoughts. It does not fit any Scripture. No such thing is taught in Scripture. Man made this up, to cover up the fact that they did not know the truth and to fit their false doctrines.

At the time of his crucifixion, is when our deliverance was done. It was also the greatest time of trouble ever to be. That is when we were delivered. Now verse two is not to be taken as if it took place exactly when verse one took place. This is how most people miss the truth of the Word. They do not know how to divide Scripture. They just read it as if it is all one big story, all taking place in direct sequence. God does not speak that way.

Surely you all know that there is a long period of time between that first resurrection and the second? Notice that BOTH resurrections are spoken of in verse two, and in the same sentence, as if they took place right there together. But we know from Revelation, that this is not the case. So if that much time passes between those two resurrections, spoken of in one sentence, surely you know that much time could have passed between verse one and verse two?

But notice verse three. This reveals to us what the firmament and the stars of the firmament is. What? Who? They that be wise and turn many to righteousness. This is the true ministers of the New Testament. It speaks definitely about the Apostles. They are this firmament and they are these stars. Those twelve stars on the woman’s head are these apostles, not those twelve tribes of Israel.

Old Israel is NOT the way into this new heaven and new earth. Those Apostles, their doctrine, is. What did their teaching do? It separated those in darkness, or law, from those who came into Grace, or light. It separated those under the firmament from those above the firmament. It separated Satan’s waters, or peoples, from God’s peoples or waters.

It is still doing that job. It is still separating God’s people from Satan’s people. It is not complete yet. So the second day is not complete yet. It is still in progress. Where is this firmament?… in the midst of the waters, or peoples of this world? Believe it or not, I know that what I am teaching now, is part of this firmament which is dividing the waters from the waters. I know that I am teaching the very same thing which the Apostles taught. I know that it is in the same power to separate waters from waters, light from darkness. God called this firmament Heaven. Paul said we sit together in heavenly places. We sit in Heaven. The whore sits on the waters, the beast, the seven mountains. Theirs is the darkness or night. Ours is the Day or the light. Jesus told his disciples, You are the LIGHT of the world. You are a City set on a hill to give light to all who come in. We are the lights in this firmament. We are the stars in this firmament. Who? The true Christians who minister this truth. On Day four, God speaks again of this firmament.

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Let these lights in the firmament be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. Here is a bit of prophecy about these signs and wonders: Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Joe 2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mr 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mr 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen

Ac 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Ac 2:19 And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

Ac 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Ac 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Ac 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Ac 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Ac 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

Ac 5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch

Ac 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.

Ac 14:3 Long time therefore abode they speaking boldly in the Lord, which gave testimony unto the word of his grace, and granted SIGNS and wonders to be done by their hands.

Ro 15:19 Through mighty SIGNS and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

2co 12:12 Truly the SIGNS of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in SIGNS, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

2th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and SIGNS and lying wonders,

Heb 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with SIGNS and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

Now all of the above Scripture is MORE than enough to show anyone that this early Church of people who were endued with power from on high, were showing those signs and wonders which was spoken of in Gen. 1: 14. So the Holy Ghost filled Church is this firmament. They are the stars giving out this light to the world. It is truly spiritual and not carnal. This Firmament was spoken of in both Day Two and Day Four. Do you suppose that God did not finish it on day two? …and had to work some more on it in day four?

Let them give light upon the earth. Jesus said ye are the light of the world. Lu 8:16 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light.

See, we light that candle when we get revelation, or truth, which gives light to others. Mt 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. Mt 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

See, the preaching of Jesus was this great light the people who were sitting in the darkness, or the shadow of death, saw. They saw this great light of truth and came into life, out of death.

Mt 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. Mt 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! Mt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

These verses show that the light here is speaking about the truth one has. The ‘eye’ is the understanding being enlightened. If the whole body is full of light, or truth, then no darkness is in it. So this proves that the ‘darkness’ it speaks of is a lack of truth, and not the atmospheric darkness of a literal earthly night.

Lu 1:76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways; Lu 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins, Lu 1:78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, Lu 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

Again, the Word proves that the light and darkness, the shadow of death, are all spiritual and not natural. It has to do with salvation, not a 24 hour period of time!

Lu 11:34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness. Lu 11:35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness. Lu 11:36 If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light

The above proves that the light and darkness is inside a person, not out in the atmosphere. Again it proves that this light is likened to lighting a candle. So it has to be the getting of truth. No natural candle could be put inside a person to give them light! Here is another solid proof that this darkness is the evil of Satan, and not natural night-time: Lu 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

See, Jesus said this is their HOUR, and the power of darkness. See, the natural night-time has no power to kill the Son of God.

Here is more proof that the light and darkness are spiritual and not natural: John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

See, the above proves that the light is truth and not natural sun-light. Just because a person is evil would not make them hate natural sun-light or love darkness. It has to be speaking of truth and error, or lies. Men who are evil, love the lies of Satan. They hate the truth of God’s word. Jesus said this is their condemnation, because He came and brought us the light, or truth. So now, God holds everyone accountable to receive the truth and be converted.

John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Surely you must know that we who follow Jesus can still go out and walk in the natural darkness of night? It has nothing to do with serving God.

John 12:35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. Joh 12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

So if the light were the natural light of the sun, why did Jesus say yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light? The natural light of the sun does not go away. Now this is enough Scripture proof to prove to the very hardest and dumbest of folks, that the light and darkness in Genesis one is NOT speaking about atmospheric light and darkness, but rather the truth which Jesus gave us. If one rejects his truth, they will remain forever in the darkness, which is destruction from God.

Ps 27:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

This solidly links light with salvation and the LORD. It is not the natural sun. So, all of the above Scriptures together, prove without a doubt that it is Jesus and his true ministers, teaching truth, which is this divider of waters from waters and light from darkness, or life from death, day from night. We who teach the truth of God’s word are right now still dividing those who can receive it from those who refuse the truth. They will end up in total darkness eternally, because they refuse the light of truth as it is given to them. Walk as you have light, lest darkness come upon you!

By: Jo Smith ** Dec. 21, 2007

 

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RE:~~ Genesis Day Two and Four ~~
(Date Posted:12/02/2012 8:35 PM)

Blog EntryDec 21, '07 7:17 PM
by freeborn551 for everyone

~~ Genesis Day Two and Four ~~

Genesis one begins with the birth of Jesus Christ and extends down until the end, when Jesus is set up as King over this whole world. It is not about back at the beginning with the creation of Adam. It is about Jesus and His Church or Kingdom. This is why men have not been able to find the truth of all this. They are trying to take all of this back to the creation from the dust of the ground. It is not about that. Chapter two is about that and there is absolutely no time limit placed on that creation. God declared the END from the Beginning, so this chapter one is actually the end. Chapter two is the beginning with the creation of Adam, from the dust of the ground.

These seven days in Genesis one is not of man’s time. It is not seven 24 hour periods of man’s timing. It is not about any certain AMOUNT of TIME. It is special times, which God designates as a DAY, such as the DAY of Salvation, or the DAY of judgment. There is a DAY wherein God will judge this world. There is a DAY of Wrath.

It has nothing to do with any amount of time. There is an evening and morning, because all of this is still on-going, and the mortal is still growing with the immortal. Life and death still exist here together. Light and darkness, or carnality and spirituality, still exist here together.

But it is being separated all the time, and will be finished when Jesus takes the kingdom away from Satan and cast him into the lake of fire, to deceive the world no more. Then all death will be totally separated from Life.

The two will no longer grow together. This is why we must crucify, or deny our flesh (darkness), and walk in the spirit, or (light). We must ‘divide’ that ‘carnal’, or dark mind, from the ‘spiritual’ mind, or the light. We do this byrenewing our mind

, through the understanding of the Word of God, and obeying Him.

For one thing, I just was reading in Gen. One, and I noticed something I had overlooked before. As I read it, I could see that both witnesses are in these two days.

But, something I did not see until now is very significant in understanding these days in Gen. One. This is why I have not attempted to teach on this up till now. There is still too much I need before teaching it. I do not just grab up some man's carnal thoughts and teach it as others do, just trying to make themselves appear to know something which they really know nothing about. I want the pure truth, and it provable before I teach it.

But here is something solid: Notice in verse six, the firmament there was in the midst of the WATERS, not in heaven. Its purpose was to divide the WATERS from the WATERS. God used this FIRMAMENT, WHICH HE CALLED HEAVEN, (the spiritual people, who sit in heavenly places)...to divide WATERS from WATERS. So, on day two, we are dividing waters, or people, from waters.

Re 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters

which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, arepeoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

So, there is solid proof that the waters are the peoples of the entire world! These peoples are divided into two groups; God’s people and Satan’s people, or light and darkness!

This firmament is the true Church of God...the true teachings of God. This truth and this true people is what divides the peoples of this earth from the peoples of God. The truth we teach, beginning with those on the Day of Pentecost, and on down until the end, is what divides Satan's peoples from God's peoples, Waters from waters, Peoples of the world.

Jesus said he caused DIVISION. He said think not that I am come to bring peace, but a sword. This sword, the Word of God, divides those in households. Mothers divided against their children. Fathers against their sons. In-laws against in-laws. Why? Because two cannot walk together unless they are agreed.

Truth separates those who believe Satan's lies. So we divide people or waters below the firmament, from those above the firmament. Love is a divider, because those who have true love divide those who do not have love. It separates the people of God from the people of Satan. Those of Satan have no love. They are selfish, hateful, desire no truth, worship idols, will not be instructed in the ways of righteousness. So this causes the division, or the separation.

So all down through time, until the end, these people, who make up this firmament, or the spiritual group of people, who are the heavenly group, are busy diving the waters, or peoples, from the other waters, or peoples. This will continue, as a day two work, until it is finished at the end of the world, when the wheat and tares, or the good fish and bad fish, will no longer be there together.

Separating the wheat from the tares and the good fish from the bad fish, or the corrupt trees, from the good trees, all means the very same thing! It means separating the waters from the waters and at last, separates in finality, the light from the darkness, or life from death.

After this separating or dividing work is finished, Heaven or God’s people, will have no darkness or death any more at all. Satan’s kingdom will be in total darkness then, with absolutely no light in it. That is the finishing up of all this dividing of the light from the darkness, and the waters from the waters. But until the end, this work continues and is still going on!

Day four is dividing the day from the night. On Day four, God said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night. So Jesus set those lights in the firmament, when he commissioned his disciples as the light of the world, to give light upon the earth. They were and are a City set on a hill which gives out the light, or the true Word of God.

They are the lights in this firmament. Jesus is still setting more lights in this firmament. I am one of them. I know that God is giving me his Light to give to the world today, to separate the light from the darkness, and to still be dividing the waters from the waters. Remember, that only a few end up in the waters above group.

Only a few find the straight and narrow way which leads to life, which is the LIGHT OR THE DAY. In Him is no darkness at all. In him is life and no death. When this work is finished, there will be no night there in his kingdom or no death.

God made two great lights in this day. The greater light ruled the day. This is the truth of GRACE. This day began when Grace was given to this world. But still, even in this day of Grace, there is the Law, still ruling over the ‘night’ people. This is why there is an evening and a morning. Law and Grace are still together in this ‘day’

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The Day is the people of truth or of the kingdom of Christ. The lesser light is the moon, or the law. It rules the night, which is death. Life and death are still together here. Those who feel they must live by the Old Law, are in this darkness of night, or death. That law rules over them. Those of us who find Grace, are filled with the Holy Ghost and are led of the Spirit of God.

That truth of the law of LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS RULES OVER US. We are free from that old bondage of the keeping of law or being killed. We obey God’s laws by love, which is shed abroad in our hearts with the Light of the Day, the Holy Ghost. See then that these lights divide the light from the darkness. This is very good. God will finally complete this ‘days’

work and all the sinners will be removed from this earth, and there will be complete PEACE for the entire earth.

If you are looking for a string of ‘days’ in a row, as in our earthly days, one comes and finishes before another one sets in and that one is no more forever, you will never find the truth of Genesis one that way. It is not that way! These days overlap with each other, as it is not man’s time. It is certain ‘seasons’ of God. One is not stopped just because another one is also in ‘motion’. The lights of Christ, or his true ministers, did not just be here one day and then gone.

No. They are still here, dividing the light from the darkness, and the waters from the waters. It will continue until the end when Satan is destroyed forever. Then death will be no more. Life or light will be all that is left. Then the darkness will finally be totally separated from the LIGHT. So, we have not reached day seven yet!

What a glorious DAY that will be. No night there. God and the Lamb are the Light in the Holy City of God.

By: Jo Smith ** Dec. 21, 2007

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