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(Date Posted:12/19/2008 1:25 PM)
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22  (Original Message)Sent: 10/13/2005 8:54 PM

They had brought a woman taken in adultery to Jesus and asked him if he would honor Moses law and let them stone her to death. Well, you know what happened; Jesus baffled them by calling on those without sin to start the stone throwing; but first he had convicted them all of their own sins.

He is smart.

But what was He really doing? Of course --- what He came here for --- Grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ. Now they thought, and most everyone still thinks Jesus was under the LAW; but was He?

He was MADE under the Law - meaning the Law time. Yet he himself, like Moses, the lawgiver, was under and in Grace. He is Grace.

So by Grace, what was his rest? Not the 7th day weekly Sabbath. That is why he constantly broke it. See he was KEEPING THE SABBATH DAY --- BUT HE WAS KEEPING THE GRACE SABBATH.

The 7th day, weekly, one day a week, Sabbath is the LAW Sabbath. But Jesus was of Grace; so He kept the Grace Sabbath of the Holy Ghost; was he not filled with the Spirit at his Baptism? Is not this the Grace way of doing things? Is not this the New Testament salvation? Did not Jesus refer to the New Testament in His blood?

So, he did keep the Sabbath Day; but not their Law Sabbath. That is what angered them; they could not understand the NT. Sabbath Day - a Day of salvation- for the Holy Ghost was NOT YET GIVEN TO ANYONE EXCEPT JESUS.

So, Jesus DID keep the whole law; but he was keeping it the Grace way. Glorious revelation! Thank you Lord Jesus for this great truth.

He was the very first one to enter in at the strait gate, which leads to eternal life; He was in Grace; He was resting from his own works and doing the works of the Father.

Jesus could not stone the lady; for he gave her grace.

Jesus could not stop working on the 7th day rest for he was in grace. This is why he said, My Father works hitherto and I work. See, Both the Father and the Son keep the Grace Sabbath; not the Law Sabbath.



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RE:Jesus and his sabbath
(Date Posted:12/19/2008 1:25 PM)

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 Sent: 10/13/2005 8:56 PM

Now, watch that broken covenant:


Now, all of the above shows how Jesus was keeping and showing the Grace life; the Grace Sabbath BEFORE his Death. The other side of Calvary.

So now, watch him throw them for a loop, which lasts all the way down to our day.

Jesus first appeared to a WOMAN. He then reveals the message of the resurrection to Mary. Then he does the UNTHINKABLE - (according to the Law)---- He commissions this WOMAN to go tell this message to his disciples. Now these disciples were all men.

So, here goes Jesus again, throwing LAW MINDED people way off into utter darkness ---- why? Because they follow their father the devil = Adam. They are choosing death - law- bondage------saying only certain ones can serve God--- only certain ones can teach the Word----- only certain ones have a right to God--- only certain ones can be partakers---- only certain ones can do a work for God --- must be male --- must be Jew --- must be 7th day resters---- etc. etc.

Get the picture?

Only those of us who have the Grace covenant = the Holy Ghost, can understand - or hear - or see. The rest were and are BLINDED.

Then Paul continues this blinding of those who choose LAW --- he writes his words in such a way only those of us who have the Holy Ghost teaching us, can discern how it is to be interpreted.

He causes them to continue to believe that no woman can have or teach the revelation of God's word; of our Father.

But those of us in Grace know that Jesus still baffles those old Law keepers; and he still sends out the Mary's who have chosen that good part which not be taken away from us.

Praise your precious Name, my Holy Husband, Jesus for giving to this Mary, your handmaid, Jo, these wonderful words of Life to go and tell your disciples, male or female; for you do not see this flesh thing; to you we are all ONE.

Glory is too small to say -- but it is all I know


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RE:Jesus and his sabbath
(Date Posted:12/19/2008 1:27 PM)

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 Sent: 10/13/2005 8:57 PM

You can tell those who are still the old Jerusalem; those still under law today. They have many different clues.

1. They still believe you must go to a certain PLACE to worship = a church building.

2. They still believe you must go on a certain DAY. (Either Sat. or Sun.)

3. They still believe you must give a certain amount of your income - 10%.

4. They still believe you cannot have the Holy Ghost according to Acts today.

5. They still believe you must rest on that 7th day.

6. They still believe women cannot teach the word.

7. They still believe there are no gifts of the Spirit at work today.

8. They still believe you must be ruled over by a certain man (pastor, bishop, priest, etc.). We are all one.

They still believe you must be in that one certain place for God to contact you. For they believe He dwells there and no where else. I have actually had them tell me I will miss God if I do not come to their church. I was receiving almost more than I could handle right at home.

Well, I could just go on and on; but you can put some of it together; at least the Grace people can.

Well, God showed me what some of those stones are that they, (the law minded) attempt to stone me to death with are:

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 Sent: 1/5/2006 10:32 PM
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 Sent: 10/13/2005 9:02 PM

1. This stone is hurled at me constantly ~~ You better keep the law. You better keep that Sabbath day of going fishing on Saturday; or something else you like doing; but not go to your job.

Now I have been pounded with this 'stone' so much since I started computering (and some before that)-- that if these stones really could physically kill, I would be in the grave. But they try to spiritually kill by making others think I am a liar and evil. It will not take away from the TRUTH.

2. A woman cannot preach, teach, or even open her mouth and utter something out of the Word of God. Women are seducing spirits. Yes this big, bad old 'stone' has been slung at me as long as I can remember. This one attempts to destroy my good relationship with my Jesus and His wonderful, marvelous word. Satan saw years ago how much I love His word, so he gets almost every man, and lots of deceived women to cast these stones at me almost daily.

But by the grace of God I am still going stronger than ever.

3. Another stone, which is hurled at us whom God has called out of Babylon, is this one: You cannot be saved outside the church. You had better get somewhere in a building and assembly yourselves together. Yes that is a big bad stone they club us with.

4. You better pay your tithes somewhere. Yes, others love to throw this stone at us. They still have that murdering spirit of their fathers, the Pharisees.

5. You better get to some local 'assembly' and support it; or you will be lost. You cannot live for God two weeks outside the church. I have been hit a few times with this stone.

More 'stones' the disciples of Moses -= Law keepers --- throw at us - to try to cause us to be carried away from our steadfastness in Grace and Faith.


1. JESUS is no longer the Name of JESUS.

2. The Word of God is full of errors ---- you cannot depend on what it says in English; for it was not originally written in English ------ so you cannot believe what it says.

3. Women can dress like men and cut their hair like men -- it matters not; but they better not try to speak any Word to anyone.

4. You do not have to live a Holy, Godly life; for indeed you cannot. You can sin everyday and still be a Christian and on your way to Heaven.

5. Speaking in tongues is of the devil; witchcraft, and witch doctors -- so you better not seek the Holy Ghost.

6. You better not Baptize people in the name of Jesus Christ - you need to usurp His authority and use the name of His Father; which you are not authorized to use; for only Jesus in under the headship of the Father.

7. Or they will say Jesus is the only one; you better not believe in His Father.

8. Then others hurl this stone at us: you have to have an Old Testament prophet to receive anything from God now.

9. And of course their pet one -- Grace is not enough - you must also keep the Sabbath and the rest of the law.

On and on I could go; but you can see the essence of this message now. God has opened up wide the door and revealed the whole truth about Law and Grace -- why so many think they can prove their false teaching by the Written Word ---- they are seeing the message of law written for those of you who go the route Adam went - and choose Law instead of Grace.

See, even in OT. times, some of the people found Grace.

I have really enjoyed doing this message and hope some of you will be blessed and enlightened by it.

Praise the Name of Jesus who sent His Spirit and revealed this great truth to me, His handmaid.

You can clearly see that in saying these stone things, they show they have no faith. For the law is not of faith. That is the real purpose of their stoning us -- they want to destroy our FAITH for they have none.

By: JO Smith

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RE:Jesus and his sabbath
(Date Posted:12/19/2008 1:29 PM)

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 Sent: 10/13/2005 9:03 PM
3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.
2co 3:4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
2co 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
2co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
2co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
2co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
2co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

2co 3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
2co 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
2co 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.
2co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.

Now, I ask you, What was written on STONE?

Is not this CLEARLY saying that Moses, written and engraven on STONE was ABOLISHED?

Does not ABOLISHED mean done away with?

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 Sent: 1/12/2006 8:19 PM
This is a simple, but beautiful and enlightening message.  I have just finished reading it again and it is food for my soul.
Don't remember if I have ever saved this one and/or printed it out.  I want to do that soon, but not tonight.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 Sent: 1/15/2006 6:03 PM
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Num. 23:19
Notice this said God is not the son of man.......wonder then how every church calls the son of man God?
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