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(Date Posted:12/25/2012 8:14 PM)
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From: MSN NicknameIsaiah쨌  (Original Message)Sent: 2/14/2004 3:08 PM
Jeremiah 31:1-34
Jeremiah 31
1   At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people.
2   Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found grace in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest.

3   The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.

4   Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.

5   Thou shalt yet plant vines upon the mountains of Samaria: the planters shall plant, and shall eat them as common things.
6   For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God.

7   For thus saith the LORD; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations: publish ye, praise ye, and say, O LORD, save thy people, the remnant of Israel.
8   Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.

9   They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
10   Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

11   For the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he.
12   Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the LORD, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

13   Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow.
14   And I will satiate the soul of the priests with fatness, and my people shall be satisfied with my goodness, saith the LORD.
15   Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.

16   Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
17   And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.
18   I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God.

19   Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.
20   Is Ephraim my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD.

21   Set thee up waymarks, make thee high heaps: set thine heart toward the highway, even the way which thou wentest: turn again, O virgin of Israel, turn again to these thy cities.
22   How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.

23   Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; As yet they shall use this speech in the land of Judah and in the cities thereof, when I shall bring again their captivity; The LORD bless thee, O habitation of justice, and mountain of holiness.
24   And there shall dwell in Judah itself, and in all the cities thereof together, husbandmen, and they that go forth with flocks.
25   For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul.

26   Upon this I awaked, and beheld; and my sleep was sweet unto me.
27   Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.
28   And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith the LORD.
29   In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
30   But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.

31   Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32   Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33   But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD,I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34   And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Hebrews 8
8   For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10   For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11   And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12   For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.


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RE:Jeremiah 31
(Date Posted:12/25/2012 8:16 PM)

From: joieSent: 2/19/2004 7:26 PM
is the Sixth Seal appearance of the Lord with power and majesty (Re.6:12-17) which will lift the partial blindness of Israel (Rom.11:25). From that day and forward (Eze.39:22), Israel will know that Christ Jesus is their Messiah, and Jer.31:31-34 and Heb.8:10-12 (below)will be fulfilled.
Jer.31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: [Pat]

Hi Pat,  It is good to hear from you again.

Now if you mean the fulfillment of this promise is YET, NOW, still waiting to be, then you are missing the truth.  That promise WAS fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost.  All those blinded Jews had their eyes opened that day and were grafted into the Body of Jesus Christ, His true Church.  Those who refuse are on the same grounds as any others who refuse, = lost.

Jesus TOOK, not going to take, of the twain,  Jews and Gentiles,  and made of THEM  ONE  NEW MAN  = the NT true Church.

This is not prophecy yet to be fulfilled.  It has already been done.  The New Covenant was the NT under the blood of Jesus.  There is NO OTHER.  If you say it is yet future, then you deny the blood covenant purchased at Calvary by Jesus.  He will never do another sacrifice for sins.  It has already been done.  The door was opened for everyone.  there has been no difference in the Jews and anyone else since Calvary.

You cannot separate what Jesus joined together in ONE. In Christ there is NEITHER Jew nor Gentile, but we are ALL ONE = SAME.

The Christians are the Jews, the true Seed of Abraham.  Do you really know prophecy?

msn-freeborn551 wrote on Nov 22, '06
From: joieSent: 5/2/2004 10:03 PM
Larry, again thanks.  This is one of the great truths and one of the great 'clues' or 'keys' which will open up truth to all who are willing to accept real truth.
Isn't it amazing how almost everyone hates any truth which 'crosses' their little mistaken concepts taught by the fake church of our day?  They would rather believe their lies than come into truth and admit that the 'church' is the enemy of truth.
I think almost all churches teach this FUTURE regathering of Israel as a nation, and then opening their eyes and THEN giving them a chance at salvation.
When we  prove by the word that this is a false teaching, they just run away and refuse to change and see the church is teaching lies.  They are the one hatching out those cockatrices eggs!
msn-freeborn551 wrote on Nov 22, '06
Sent: 5/2/2004 7:13 PM
Another Amen
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RE:Jeremiah 31
(Date Posted:12/25/2012 8:16 PM)

From: joieSent: 2/14/2004 7:45 PM
Wonderful message, Isaiah.  And it is amazing that it on the same subject on which I just posted my new message.  I took this from the message:
4   Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.
Now that is prophecy for the Holy Ghost dancing God gives to us.  Just love it.
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RE:Jeremiah 31
(Date Posted:12/25/2012 8:19 PM)

msn-freeborn551 wrote on Nov 22, '06
Sent: 11/14/2004 9:44 PM
Do you have a stoney heart or do you have a heart offlesh?
From: joie2Sent: 12/13/2004 7:19 PM
Isaiah, I have sat here just laughing and having a great time in the Lord, as I read this message.  As I began to read the first part, I saw something in all of these verses which I have never seen before. I want to get to it in the next post, but first,
I want to show this.
As I set out to do the next one, I saw this.  Therefore I want to show you this first:
Ex 20:25And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
Ex 20:26Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.

Look at this, Larry.  God said if you make me an altar of STONE, you shall not build it of HEWN stone.  [means do not work with it in any way to alter its original shape; they used heavy cutting instruments to hew stone].  but God said if you mess with it, or cut it in any way to alter it, you pollute it.

Now [if you see this as not quite right, please inform me; but for now I see this]--when God gave Moses those commandments on stone, God himself hewed them out.  Then the next set Moses hewed them out.  So, it seems to me, that those stones were hewn, therefore polluted?  Do you see that?

Next, look.  He said if they go up by STEPS to his altar, their nakedness would be discovered thereon.

Now God said he discovered Babylon's [whore church] nakedness.  So, all the churches have steps going up to their altar, or the place their king sits.

I am sure there is probably much more spiritual revelation involved here,  but for now I saw this and wanted to show you this.

Next I want to get into what I saw about the first verses of this message.  It is delightful!!!!!!   

Praise God for His unsearchable, endless Word.

Food for my soul.


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RE:Jeremiah 31
(Date Posted:12/25/2012 8:24 PM)

From: joie2Sent: 12/13/2004 7:30 PM
I was just thinking then, do you realize that all 'churches' today or any day, were built of hewn stone or cut wood?  Then they have altars with steps going up to that altar?  Then [if I am seeing this in the right light?]- all their altars [churches] were polluted, right?   They were polluted from the very start.
Men lifted up 'their' instruments to build these man-made temples, of which God said he would never dwell in.  Know what?  Today God showed me this as I read one of my messages:  preachers, who claim to be labourers in the Word, forget the Word and leave God behind just as soon as they leave their 'church'.
See they reject the fact that our bodies are the true temple of God, and they are trying to usurp the authority over God and say that their own hands built the temple!  They are trying to say the temples they build are the true temple and not the one God built.  They set 'their' instrument to it!  They defiled it!
I know they do.  A man just told me last week that his pastor never brings up the subject of the Word with him, that he himself has to always be the one to bring it up.  Then the preacher does not really wish to discuss the Word.
They are almost all the same.  Why?  I believe they consider their 'job' to be only the paid time for their Sunday and Wednesday sermon.  Then, apparently they think that God dwells in that man-made building, so when they leave it, they leave God behind there in that building and they will not contact Him again until they come back into the man-made palace?
Goodness!  I truly think that is what they think........that God stayed behind in that 'church' building.
They are so far into the dark jungle they will never see daylight again.
msn-freeborn551 wrote on Nov 22, '06
From: joie2Sent: 12/13/2004 8:13 PM
4   Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shaltagain be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.
AGAIN.........I will build thee..........who?  The first or virgin who was this?  I fully see now this was Lucifer, there in the garden of God.  This was the Son of God, Adam. >>>>>>>look>>>
"Thou shalt AGAIN be adorned with thy tabrets.........
Now who was adorned with tabrets?  Lucifer, there in the garden of God.
Eze 28:13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God
........the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.  No other being in Scripture is said to have workmenship of tabrets in him.  See, he had the knowledge inside himself to build all kinds of music.
Tabrets are  musical instruments.  They were a type of Tymbral or tamberine.  Who went out and made the first musical instruments?  Cain.  Why?  This was their nature,,,,,,,,they had this built into them.  This is that kingdom of Adam, or the serpent.
They were this first, virgin Israel.  They fell.  So the type of the OT Israel also fell.  Remember, Jacob was only going by that name of Israel, the Lord in Heaven.  Israel was not truly Jacob's name.
But they typed this first Israel, the original sons of God.  It was and is an entire kingdom.  People miss the entire meaning of Scripture by trying to place these things on just 1 person.  It is a kingdom.
Lucifer,  Adam, Satan, Serpent, false prophet, are all kingdom.  They are not just one being, same as Christ is an entire kingdom.  They were that first Israel.
Jesus told the Pharisees of his day they were serpents.  So they were still in this Satanic kingdom of Adam.
But do you see that God is speaking here in Jeremiah of the RESURRECTION?  He is saying he will again have a pure kingdom of virgin Israel, made up of NT Christians.  But it speaks here of resurrection, when we will come forth in that original beauty and perfection which Lucifer, or Adam, the Son of God, was created in.  He was perfect in the day he was created.
He had his musical tabrets inside him.  So naturally Cain, his descendants, could build organs and harps, and all kinds of musical instruments.
More later:
From: joie2Sent: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM the Word...means un-explored territory.  Well it means this anywhere.
but.....the last true wilderness will be the resurrecton.
Yes.  Then we will come forth in something [glorification] which no other human beings have experienced.
The last time the woman [the one bearing Christ] flees into a wilderness will be at this resurrection of the saints.
See the ones left of the sword [when Jesus pours out his wrath] found rest by grace in this wilderness.
It is the resurrection.
That is when we will again be adorned with our tabrets, pipes, and all manner of precious stones and gems.
Wow.  What a revelation!  Thank God I found this tonight.
I had been thinking all day of doing some more, making it more conclusive and clear that Adam is Satan.  People need this truth.
All of this helps with that message.  See, Adam was that Lucifer.  He was perfect in the day he was created.  It was not some angel as everyone thinks.   it was God's own son.

(My, this is some great revelation we had back then.  I truly have forgotten all of this.  So thankful I found it again tonight.  It will help me in my study of Daniel.  If I had looked down, and seen all of this about Adam,  under this message of Isaiah's,  I would have moved all of these small messages to the Adam thread.  This is some more great revelation here.  Hope some of you read this and learn some great truth.

You truly will not get this kind of teaching at any church, or on other internet groups, I don't think.  At least I have certainly never heard any of this elsewhere.)

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